"Sasiyizingane ezazifuna ukusindisa umhlaba, kodwa akuzange kuphumelele"

Psychology: Ingabe uke wakhuluma noLinda Carter ngaphambi kokuthi uqale ukuqopha? phela ungowokuqala ukudlala indawo ka-Wonder Woman ochungechungeni lwama-70s, futhi usephenduke isibalo sehlelo kwabaningi.

UPatti Jenkins: ULinda waba umuntu wokuqala engamfonela lapho kuqala umsebenzi. Ngangingafuni ukwenza enye inguqulo ye-Wonder Woman noma i-Wonder Woman entsha, wayeyi-Wonder Woman engangiyithanda futhi kwakuyisizathu sokuthi ngithande indaba ye-Amazon Diana ngokwayo. Yena namahlaya — angazi nokuthi ngangithanda bani ekuqaleni, kimina babehambisana — uWonder Woman noLinda, owadlala indawo yakhe kuthelevishini.

Okwenza i-Wonder Woman ikhethekile kimi ukuthi wayenamandla futhi ehlakaniphile, nokho enomusa futhi efudumele, emuhle futhi engeneka. Umlingiswa wakhe ubelokhu edumile iminyaka eminingi impela ngoba wenzela amantombazane lokho uSuperman ake akwenzela abafana - wayeyilona esasifuna ukuba yikho! Ngikhumbula, ngisho ngisenkundleni yemidlalo, ngangizibona ngiwuWonder Woman, ngangizizwa nginamandla kangangokuthi ngangikwazi ukulwa nezigilamkhuba ngedwa. Kwakuwumuzwa omangalisayo.

I-Wonder Woman kimi ihlukile kwamanye amaqhawekazi ezinhlosweni zayo. Ulapha ukuze enze abantu babe ngcono, okuwumbono omuhle kakhulu, nokho akazele ukuzolwa, ukulwa nobugebengu - yebo, ukwenza konke ukuvikela isintu, kodwa ukholelwa othandweni kuqala nokubalulekile. futhi iqiniso, libe ebuhleni, futhi ngesikhathi esifanayo liqine ngendlela emangalisayo. Yingakho ngishayele uLinda ucingo.

Ubani ongcono kunoLinda Carter ngokwakhe ongasinika iseluleko mayelana nendlela yokulondoloza ifa lomlingiswa yena ngokwakhe, ngezindlela eziningi, azakhele? Wasinika izeluleko eziningi, kodwa nakhu engikukhumbulayo. Wangicela ukuthi ngitshele uGal ukuthi akakaze adlale iWonder Woman, wayedlala uDiane kuphela. Futhi lokhu kubaluleke kakhulu, u-Diana ungumlingiswa, nakuba enesethi enhle yezimfanelo, kodwa lena indima yakho, futhi uxazulula izinkinga ngamandla anikezwe wona.

I-Gal Gadot iphile ngokuvumelana nalokho obukulindele?

Waze wazedlula. Ngize ngicasulwe ukuthi angiwatholi amagama athophayo ngaye. Yebo, usebenza kanzima, yebo, angakwazi ukuzala izingane futhi enze imigilingwane ngesikhathi esisodwa!

Lokhu kungaphezu kokwanele! Futhi kwakunjani ukudala ibutho lonke labesifazane base-Amazon?

Ukuqeqeshwa kwakunamandla kakhulu futhi ngezinye izikhathi kunzima, kwakuyinselele esimweni somzimba sabalingisi bami. Okufanelekile ukugibela, ukuqeqeshwa ngezisindo ezinzima. Bafunda ubuciko bokulwa, badla i-2000-3000 kcal ngosuku - babedinga ukuzuza isisindo ngokushesha! Kodwa bonke basekelana kakhulu - lokhu akukhona oyokubona esihlalweni samadoda esinyakazayo, kodwa ngezinye izikhathi ngangiwabona ama-Amazons ami ehamba endaweni futhi encike phezu kwenduku - ayephethwe iqolo, noma amadolo abo ebuhlungu!

Kuyinto eyodwa ukwenza ifilimu, kungenye into ukuba owesifazane wokuqala ukuqondisa i-blockbuster yezigidi zamadola. Ingabe uke wazizwa lo mthwalo wemfanelo? Ngemuva kwakho konke, empeleni, kufanele uguqule imithetho yomdlalo wemboni enkulu yamafilimu ...

Yebo, ngeke ngisho, angizange ngibe nesikhathi sokucabanga ngakho, uma ngikhuluma iqiniso. Lena ifilimu ebengifuna ukulenza isikhathi eside kakhulu. Wonke umsebenzi wami wangaphambili wangiholela kulesi sithombe.

Ngazizwa nginomthwalo wemfanelo kanye nengcindezi, kodwa ngaphezulu ngombono wokuthi ifilimu mayelana ne-Wonder Woman ngokwayo ibaluleke kakhulu, ngoba inabalandeli abaningi. Ngizibekele umgomo wokweqa konke okulindelekile namathemba ahambisana nalesi sithombe. Ngicabanga ukuthi le ngcindezi kusukela ngosuku engabhalisela ngalo lo msebenzi kwaze kwaba isonto lokugcina ayikashintshi.

Engangicabanga ngakho nje ukuthi ngifuna ukwenza ifilimu futhi ngiqiniseke ukuthi engikwenzayo kungcono kakhulu engingakwenza. Ngaso sonke isikhathi ngangicabanga: ingabe nginikele ngakho konke noma ngingenza kangcono nakakhulu? Futhi emavikini ambalwa okugcina nje ngacabanga: ingabe ngiwuqedile umsebenzi wale filimu? Futhi manje, boom, ngokuzumayo ngikulo mhlaba lapho bengibuza ukuthi kunjani ukuba umqondisi wesifazane, ukuthi kunjani ukuhola iphrojekthi ngesabelomali sezigidi zamadola, kunjani ukwenza ifilimu lapho indima enkulu owesifazane? Uma ngikhuluma iqiniso, ngisanda kuqala ukucabanga ngakho.

Lena mhlawumbe ifilimu eyivelakancane lapho izigcawu ezinamaqhawe wesifazane zithwetshulwa ngaphandle komongo wocansi, kuyilapho umqondisi wesilisa oyivelakancane ephumelela ...

Kuyahlekisa ukuthi uqaphele, ngokuvamile abaqondisi besilisa bayazijabulisa, futhi kuhle kakhulu. Futhi uyazi ukuthi yini ehlekisayo — ngiyalijabulela futhi iqiniso lokuthi abalingisi bami babukeka bekhanga ngendlela emangalisayo (uhleka). Bengingeke ngiphendule yonke into phansi futhi ngenze imuvi lapho abalingisi bengakhangi khona ngamabomu.

Ngicabanga ukuthi kubaluleke kakhulu ukuthi izethameli zikwazi ukuxhumana nabalingisi ukuze babe nomuzwa wenhlonipho. Kwesinye isikhathi bengifisa ukuthi kube khona oyoqopha izingxoxo zethu uma sikhuluma ngamabele kaWonder Woman, ngoba bekuyingxoxo ochungechungeni: “Ake si-google izithombe, uyabona, lesi yisimo sangempela sebele, semvelo! Cha, lezi ama-torpedoes, kodwa lokhu kuhle, "kanye nokunye.

Ziningi izinkulumo eHollywood mayelana nokuthi bambalwa abaqondisi besifazane uma kuqhathaniswa nabaqondisi besilisa, ucabangani? Kungani lokhu kwenzeka?

Kuyahlekisa ukuthi lezi zingxoxo zenzeka. Kunabesifazane abaningi abanamandla nabanamandla e-Hollywood, ngakho-ke angikakaqondi ukuthi yini inkinga - kukhona abesifazane abaphethe izitudiyo zefilimu, phakathi kwabakhiqizi, naphakathi kwababhali besikrini.

Into efike engqondweni yami wukuthi kube nesigameko ngemuva kokukhishwa kwezihlathi, ngemuva kwempelasonto yokuqala, kwaqhamuka umqondo wokuthi ama-blockbusters nokuthandwa kwawo kuncike kubafana abasakhula. Yilokhu kuphela, ngoba kimi kubonakala sengathi bengilokhu ngisekelwa futhi ngikhuthazwa kakhulu, angikwazi ukusho ukuthi angisekelwanga. Kodwa uma imboni yamabhayisikobho ekugcineni ifuna ukunakwa abafana abasakhula, bayoya kubani ukuze bayithole?

Kowayengumfana osemusha okungenzeka abe umqondisi wale filimu, futhi nansi enye inkinga ngemboni yamafilimu, bahlose izethameli ezincane kakhulu, futhi iyawohloka esikhathini sethu. Uma ngingaphosisi, u-70% wamabhokisi omhlaba kulezi zinsuku ngabesifazane. Ngakho-ke ngicabanga ukuthi kugcina kuyinhlanganisela yakho kokubili.

Kungani abesifazane beholelwa kancane futhi kuyiqiniso? Ingabe iGal Gadot ihola kancane kunoChris Pine?

Amaholo awalingani. Kunohlelo olukhethekile: abalingisi bakhokhelwa ngokusekelwe emalini yabo yangaphambilini. Konke kuncike ehhovisi lebhokisi lefilimu, ukuthi basayine nini futhi kanjani inkontileka. Uma uqala ukuqonda lokhu, uzomangala ngezinto eziningi. Kodwa-ke ngiyavuma, kuba yinkinga enkulu uma sithola ukuthi abantu esiwuthanda kakhulu umdlalo wabo futhi esesineminyaka eminingi siwuthanda, ukuthi umsebenzi wabo ukhokhelwa kancane, kuyamangaza. Isibonelo, uJennifer Lawrence uyinkanyezi enkulu kunazo zonke emhlabeni, futhi umsebenzi wakhe awukhokhelwa kahle.

Uneminyaka eminingi ubambe iqhaza kuphrojekthi ye-Wonder Woman. Kungani ifilimu iphuma manje?

Eqinisweni, angazi futhi angicabangi ukuthi kunesizathu esiqondile sokuthi kungani yonke into ibe ngale ndlela, kwakungekho mbono wozungu lapha. Ngikhumbula ukuthi ngifuna ukwenza ifilimu, kodwa bathi ngeke kube nesithombe, base bengithumela iskripthi bathi: kuzoba nefilimu, kodwa ngakhulelwa futhi angikwazanga ukuwenza. Angazi ukuthi kungani bengalenzi imuvi ngaleso sikhathi.

Yini edingekayo ukuze uthole abesifazane abaningi kumafilimu esenzo?

Udinga impumelelo, impumelelo yezohwebo ukuze uqale. Uhlelo lwesitudiyo, ngeshwa, lunensa kakhulu futhi alukwazi ukuhambisana nezinguquko. Ngakho iziteshi ezifana neNetflix ne-Amazon zaqala ukwenza kahle. Ngokuvamile kunzima ukuthi izinkampani ezinkulu zishintshe ngokushesha.

Kuhlale kungimangaza ukuthi singathola iqiniso nganoma iyiphi indlela esiyithandayo, kodwa impumelelo yezohwebo iguqula abantu. Yilapho-ke lapho beqonda khona ukuthi bayaphoqeleka ukuthi bashintshe, bavule amehlo futhi babone ukuthi umhlaba awusafani. Futhi, ngenhlanhla, le nqubo isivele iyaqhubeka.

Yiqiniso, nginezizathu eziningi zomuntu siqu zokuphumelela, ukuqoqa ibhokisi elikhulu lebhokisi. Kodwa endaweni ethile ekujuleni komphefumulo wami kukhona omunye mina - ongazange akwazi ukwenza le filimu, lapho wonke umuntu etshela ukuthi akukho lutho oluzovela kulo, ukuthi akekho ongafuna ukubuka ifilimu enjalo. Nganginethemba lokuthi ngizobabonisa laba bantu ukuthi banephutha, ngibabonise into abangakaze bayibone. Ngajabula lapho lokho kwenzeka nge-The Hunger Games kanye ne-Insurgent. Ngiyajabula njalo uma ifilimu efana nalena idonsa izethameli ezintsha, ezingalindelekile. Lokhu kufakazela ukuthi izibikezelo ezinjalo ziyiphutha kangakanani.

Ngemuva kokukhonjiswa okokuqala kwefilimu, uGal Gadot uzoba isihlabani somhlaba, awulona usuku lokuqala kuleli bhizinisi, isiphi iseluleko owamnika sona noma wamnikeza sona?

Ukuphela kwento engiyishilo kuGal Gadot ukuthi akudingeki ukuthi ube Wonder Woman nsuku zonke, izinsuku eziyisikhombisa ngesonto. Ungaba nguwe. Ngikhathazekile kancane ngekusasa lakhe, ngingacabangi lutho olubi. Akukho okushodayo lapha. Muhle wesifazane futhi muhle njengoWonder Woman. Mina naye sizoya e-Disneyland nezingane zethu kuleli hlobo. Ngesinye isikhathi, ngacabanga ukuthi ngeke sikwazi.

Omama abambukayo bangase bacabange ukuthi izingane zabo zingacabanga ukuthi lona wesifazane angaba umzali ongcono kunabo — ngakho kungase kube “uhambo” oluxakile ekuphileni kwakhe. Kodwa ngesikhathi esifanayo, ngicabanga ukuthi bambalwa abantu abakulungele lokhu kunaye, ungumuntu, muhle kakhulu, wemvelo. Ngicabanga ukuthi uyohlale ekhumbula ukuthi kuqala futhi ungumuntu ojwayelekile. Futhi angicabangi ukuthi uzovele abe nesifo senkanyezi.

Ekhuluma ngothando lukaWonder Woman: kwakunjani ukuthola indoda, ukwakha umlingiswa ongase abe umlingani wakhe?

Uma ufuna uzakwethu weqhawe elinamandla, uhlala ufuna umuntu omangalisayo nonamandla. NjengoMargot Kidder, owadlala intombi kaSuperman. Umuntu ohlekisayo, othokozisayo. Yini engiyithandile ngesimilo sikaSteve? Ungumshayeli wendiza. Ngakhulela emndenini wabashayeli bezindiza. Yilokhu engikuthandayo, nginothando lwami nesibhakabhaka!

Sasikhuluma noChris Pine ngaso sonke isikhathi mayelana nokuthi sonke sasiyizingane kanjani sidlala ngezindiza futhi sonke sasifuna ukusindisa umhlaba, kodwa akuzange kuphumelele. Kunalokho, senza esingakwenza, futhi kungazelelwe lo wesifazane uvela emkhathizwe, okwazile ukusindisa umhlaba, wamangala. Ngakho mhlawumbe ke, eqinisweni, sonke siyakwazi ukusindisa umhlaba? Noma okungenani uyishintshe. Ngicabanga ukuthi umphakathi wethu ucikwe wumbono wokuthi ukuyekethisa akunakugwenywa.

E-cinema yaseNtshonalanga, akuvamile ukuthi isenzo senzeke ngeMpi Yezwe Yokuqala. Ingabe kube khona izinselele noma izinzuzo zakho ngenkathi usebenza ngalesi sihloko?

Bekukuhle lokho! Ubunzima bekungukuthi amahlaya awakudala, afana ne-pop abonisa lesi noma leso sikhathi. Ngokuvamile kusetshenziswa imivimbo embalwa nje.

Uma sine-1940s, iMpi Yezwe Yesibili - futhi sonke sazi ngokwanele ngeMpi Yezwe Yesibili - khona-ke ama-clichés amaningana aqala ukudlala, futhi ngokushesha wonke umuntu uyaqonda ukuthi isikhathi sini.

Mina ngokwami ​​ngiqhubekele phambili ekutheni ngiwazi kahle umlando weMpi Yezwe Yokuqala. Esasifuna ukukugwema kwakuwukushintsha ifilimu yethu ibe idokhumentari ye-BBC lapho yonke into ibonakala iyiqiniso kangangokuthi kucacela umbukeli: "Yebo, lena ifilimu yomlando."

Ngaphezu kwalokho, le filimu ihlanganisa kokubili izwe lamaphupho kanye nethimba laseLondon. Indlela yethu yokwenza ibe yinto enjengale: 10% i-pop emsulwa, okunye inani elingalindelekile lamaqiniso kuhlaka. Kodwa uma sifika empini uqobo, yilapho umsangano okhona. IMpi Yezwe I yayiyinhlekelele yangempela nempi enkulu ngempela. Sinqume ukudlulisa umoya ngezingubo eziyiqiniso, kodwa singangeni emininingwaneni yomlando yezehlakalo zangempela ngokwazo.

Uma benza amafilimu mayelana namaqhawekazi eMpi Yezwe II, awabonisi amakamu okuhlushwa - umbukeli umane nje akakwazi ukubekezelela lokho. Kuyafana lapha - besingafuni ukukhombisa ngokoqobo ukuthi abantu abangafika ezinkulungwaneni eziyikhulu bangafa ngosuku, kodwa ngesikhathi esifanayo, umbukeli angakuzwa. Ngaqale ngamangazwa ubunzima bomsebenzi engangiwenza, kodwa ngase ngijabula, ngijabula kakhulu ngokuthi sasibeke isinyathelo ngeMpi Yezwe Yokuqala.

Ubaba wakho wayengumshayeli wendiza wezempi...

Yebo, futhi wadlula kukho konke. Waba umshayeli wendiza ngenxa yeMpi Yezwe II. Wayefuna ukushintsha izinto zibe ngcono. Wagcina ngokuqhumisa amabhomu amadolobhana aseVietnam. Waze wabhala incwadi ngayo. Waphothula esikhungweni sezempi “enhle kakhulu” ukuze ekugcineni abe yilokho aba yikho. Wayengaqondi ukuthi, “Ngingaba kanjani isikhohlakali? Bengicabanga ukuthi ngingomunye wabafana abalungile. ”…

Kukhona ubugwala lapho ojenene bethumela izinsizwa ukuthi zife.

Yebo, impela! Engikuthanda ngempela ngamamuvi amaqhawekazi ukuthi angaba yisingathekiso. Sasebenzisa onkulunkulu endabeni ukuxoxa indaba yeqhawekazi esilaziyo sonke. Siyazi ukuthi obani amaqhawe, siyazi ukuthi balwelani, kodwa umhlaba wethu usenkingeni! Singahlala kanjani sibukele? Kulungile, uma uyingane, kungase kube mnandi ukukubuka, kodwa sibuza umbuzo: hlobo luni lweqhawe ofuna ukuba yilo kulo mhlaba? Onkulunkulu, bebuka thina bantu, babeyoshaqeka. Kodwa yilokhu esiyikho manje, ukuthi umhlaba wethu unjani manje.

Ngakho-ke, kwakubaluleke kakhulu ngathi ukuba sixoxe indaba yentombazane efuna ukuba iqhawe futhi sibonise ukuthi kusho ukuthini ngempela ukuba iqhawe. Ukusenza sibone ukuthi awekho amandla amakhulu angasindisa umhlaba wethu, lena indaba ngathi. Lokhu ukuziphatha okuyinhloko kwefilimu kimi. Sonke sidinga ukucabanga kabusha ngemibono yethu ngobuqhawe nobuqhawe.

Baningi abalingiswa abangamaqhawe abahlukene esithombeni - bonke bangamaqhawe. USteve uyazidela ngenxa yokuthile okukhulu, usifundisa isifundo okufanele sikholwe ngazo zonke izindlela futhi sibe nethemba. Futhi uDiana uyaqonda ukuthi awekho amandla angaphezu kwawemvelo angasisindisa. Izinqumo zethu zinendaba. Kusadingeka senze amafilimu ayikhulu ngakho.