UCarl Gustav Jung: "Ngiyazi ukuthi amademoni akhona"

Le ngxoxo yashicilelwa ephephandabeni laseSwitzerland i-Die Weltwoche ezinsukwini ezine ngemva kokunikezela kwebutho laseJalimane eReims. Isihloko sayo sithi “Ingabe imiphefumulo iyokuthola ukuthula?” – kusabalulekile.

I-Die Weltwoche: Awucabangi yini ukuthi ukuphela kwempi kuzoletha ushintsho olukhulu emphefumulweni wabase-Europe, ikakhulukazi amaJalimane, abonakala ephaphama ebuthongweni obude nobubi?

UCarl Gustav Jung: Oh impela. Mayelana namaJalimane, sibhekene nenkinga yengqondo, ukubaluleka kwayo okusenzima ukukucabanga, kodwa imidwebo yayo ingabonakala ngesibonelo seziguli engiyelaphayo.

Into eyodwa ecacile kusazi sokusebenza kwengqondo, okungukuthi akumele alandele ukwehlukana kwemizwa okwandile phakathi kwamaNazi kanye nemithetho emelene nemithetho. Ngineziguli ezimbili ngokusobala ezimelene namaNazi, kodwa nokho amaphupho azo abonisa ukuthi ngemva kwakho konke ukulunga kwazo, isasebenza esibiziwe sokusebenza kwengqondo yamaNazi nabo bonke ubudlova nonya lwaso.

Lapho intatheli yaseSwitzerland ibuza uField Marshal von Küchler (uGeorg von Küchler (1881-1967) owayehola ukuhlasela kweWestern Poland ngoSepthemba 1939. Walahlwa yicala futhi wagwetshwa ejele njengesigebengu sempi yiNkantolo yaseNuremberg) mayelana nonya lwaseJalimane ePoland, wababaza ngokucasuka: “Uxolo, akuyona i-Wehrmacht lena, iphathi!” - isibonelo esihle sokuthi ukwehlukana phakathi kwamaJalimane ahloniphekile nangenasithunzi kuwubuwula ngokwedlulele. Bonke, ngokuqaphela noma ngokungazi, ngenkuthalo noma ngokungenzi lutho, bahlanganyela ezintweni ezesabekayo.

Babengazi lutho ngalokho okwakwenzeka, futhi ngesikhathi esifanayo bazi.

Udaba lwecala elihlangene, okuyinkinga futhi esazoqhubeka nokuba yinkinga kosopolitiki, kuyiqiniso elingenakuphikwa lochwepheshe bezengqondo, futhi omunye wemisebenzi ebaluleke kakhulu yokwelashwa wukwenza amaJalimane avume icala lawo. Kumanje abaningi babo sebephendukela kimi becela ukwelashwa yimina.

Uma izicelo zivela kulawo “maJalimane ahloniphekile” angakuthandi ukubeka icala kubantu abambalwa beGestapo, ngibheka leli cala njengelingenathemba. Akukho okunye engingakwenza ngaphandle kokubanikeza uhlu lwemibuzo olunemibuzo ecacile efana nokuthi: “Ucabangani ngeBuchenwald?” Kuphela lapho isiguli siqonda futhi sivuma icala laso, ukwelashwa komuntu ngamunye kungasetshenziswa.

Kodwa kwenzeka kanjani ukuba amaJalimane, bonke abantu, bawele kulesi simo sengqondo esingenathemba? Ingabe lokhu kungenzeka kunoma yisiphi esinye isizwe?

Ake ngihlehle lapha kancane futhi ngichaze inkolelo-mbono yami mayelana nesikhathi esidlule esingokwengqondo esandulela iMpi Kazwelonke Yezenhlalakahle. Ake sithathe isibonelo esincane emsebenzini wami njengesiqalo.

Ngesinye isikhathi owesifazane weza kimi futhi waqhuma ekumangaleleni ngobudlova umyeni wakhe: ungudeveli wangempela, uyamhlukumeza futhi amshushise, njalonjalo njalonjalo. Eqinisweni, le ndoda yaphenduka isakhamuzi esihlonipheke ngokuphelele, engenacala kunoma yiziphi izinhloso zamademoni.

Lo wesifazane uwuthathephi umqondo wakhe ongasile? Yebo, kuwukuthi nje udeveli uhlala emphefumulweni wakhe siqu, okuyinto ayiveza ngaphandle, edlulisela izifiso zakhe siqu nokufutheka kumyeni wakhe. Ngamchazela konke lokhu, futhi wavuma, njengewundlu eliphendukile. Konke kwakubonakala kuhamba kahle. Kodwa-ke, yilokho kanye okwangikhathaza, ngoba angazi ukuthi udeveli, owayehlotshaniswa nomfanekiso womyeni, waya kuphi.

Amademoni agqekeza ubuciko be-baroque: i-spines igoba, ama-satyr inselo ayambulwa

Into efanayo ncamashi, kodwa ngezinga elikhulu, kwenzeka emlandweni waseYurophu. Kubantu basendulo, izwe ligcwele amademoni namandla angaqondakaliyo abesabayo. Kuye, yonke imvelo iqhutshwa yilawa mandla, empeleni angewona lutho ngaphandle kwamandla akhe angaphakathi aqanjwe ezweni langaphandle.

UbuKristu kanye nesayensi yesimanje baye bakhipha amademoni imvelo, okusho ukuthi abantu baseYurophu njalo ukumunca amandla amademoni emhlabeni kubo, njalo ukulayisha ukuquleka kwabo kubo. Kumuntu ngokwakhe, lamandla amademoni avukelana nokungakhululeki okungokomoya kobuKristu.

Amademoni angena ebucikweni be-baroque: i-spines bend, ama-satyr inselo ayambulwa. Umuntu kancane kancane uphenduka abe i-ouroboros, azibhubhise, abe isithombe esivela ezikhathini zasendulo esifanekisela indoda ekhwelwe idemoni. Isibonelo sokuqala esiphelele salolu hlobo yiNapoleon.

AmaJalimane akhombisa ubuthakathaka obukhethekile ebusweni bala madimoni ngenxa yokusikisela kwawo okumangalisayo. Lokhu kwembulwa othandweni lwabo lokuzithoba, ekulaleleni kwabo okunesifiso esibuthakathaka emithethweni, okungenye nje indlela yokusikisela.

Lokhu kuhambisana nokungabi nangqondo okujwayelekile kwamaJalimane, njengomphumela wesikhundla sawo esingapheli phakathi kweMpumalanga neNtshonalanga. Babodwa eNtshonalanga okwathi, ekuphumeni okuvamile esibelethweni sezizwe ezisempumalanga, bahlala isikhathi eside kunabo bonke nonina. Bagcine behoxile, kodwa bafika sekudlule isikhathi.

Zonke izinsolo zokungabi nanhliziyo nokulala nezilwane lapho inkulumo-ze yaseJalimane yahlasela amaRussia ibhekisela kumaJalimane ngokwawo.

Ngakho-ke, amaJalimane ahlushwa ngokujulile ngenxa yenkimbinkimbi yokungabi nalutho, azama ukuyinxephezela nge-megalomania: “Am deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen” (Ukuhunyushwa okunamandla: “Umoya wamaJalimane uyosindisa umhlaba.” Lesi isiqubulo samaNazi, esibolekiwe. kusukela enkondlweni ka-Emmanuel Geibel (1815-1884) “Recognition Germany.” Imigqa evela ku-Geibel yaziwa kusukela yacashunwa ngu-Wilhelm II enkulumweni yakhe yaseMünster ngo-1907) - nakuba bengazizwa bekhululekile kakhulu esikhumbeni sabo. !

Lena i-psychology yentsha evamile, engabonakali nje kuphela ekwandeni okwedlulele kobungqingili, kodwa futhi nokungabikho kwe-anima ezincwadini zesiJalimane (i-Goethe ihlukile kakhulu). Lokhu kubuye kutholakale emzwelweni waseJalimane, empeleni okungekho lutho ngaphandle kwenhliziyo elukhuni, ukungabi nazwela kanye nokungabi namphefumulo.

Zonke izinsolo zokungabi nanhliziyo nokulala nezilwane lapho inkulumo-ze yaseJalimane yahlasela amaRussia ibhekisela kumaJalimane ngokwawo. Izinkulumo zikaGoebbels azilutho ngaphandle kwesayikholoji yaseJalimane evezwa esitheni. Ukungavuthwa kobuntu kwabonakala ngokwesabekayo ekungabi namgogodla kwe-General Staff yaseJalimane, enomzimba othambile njenge-mollusk egobolondweni.

Ekuphendukeni okuqotho umuntu uthola isihe saphezulu. Lokhu akulona nje iqiniso lezenkolo kodwa futhi kuyiqiniso elingokwengqondo.

IJalimane ibilokhu iyizwe lezinhlekelele zengqondo: iNguquko, izimpi zabalimi nezenkolo. Ngaphansi kwe-National Socialism, ingcindezi yamademoni yanda kakhulu kangangokuthi abantu, bewela ngaphansi kwamandla abo, baphenduka abantu abanamandla angaphezu kwe-somnambulistic, owokuqala wabo kwakunguHitler, owathelela wonke umuntu ngalokhu.

Bonke abaholi bamaNazi banomqondo ongokoqobo waleli gama, futhi akungabazeki ukuthi kwaqondana nje ukuthi ungqongqoshe wabo wenkulumo-ze waphawulwa ngophawu lwendoda enodemoni - ukuxhuga. Amaphesenti ayishumi abantu baseJalimane namuhla bangama-psychopath angenathemba.

Ukhuluma ngobuncane bengqondo kanye nokusikisela kobudemoni bamaJalimane, kodwa ucabanga ukuthi lokhu kuyasebenza nakithi, amaSwitzerland, amaJalimane ngemvelaphi?

Sivikelwe kulokhu kuphakamisa izinombolo zethu ezincane. Uma inani labantu baseSwitzerland laliyizigidi ezingamashumi ayisishiyagalombili, khona-ke into efanayo ingenzeka nakithi, njengoba amademoni akhangwa ikakhulukazi uquqaba. Eqoqweni, umuntu ulahlekelwa izimpande zakhe, bese kuthi amademoni ambambe.

Ngakho-ke, ngokusebenza, amaNazi ayesebenza kuphela ekwakhiweni kwezixuku ezinkulu futhi akazange enze ukwakheka kobuntu. Futhi yingakho nobuso babantu abakhwelwe ngamademoni namuhla bungaphili, buqandisiwe, bungenalutho. Thina amaSwitzerland sivikelekile kulezi zingozi yi-federalism yethu kanye nobuntu bethu. Nathi ukuqoqwa kwabantu abaningi njengaseJalimane akunakwenzeka, futhi mhlawumbe endaweni enjalo kukhona indlela yokwelapha, ngenxa yokuthi kungenzeka ukunqanda amademoni.

Kodwa ingabe ukwelashwa kungaba yini uma kwenziwa ngamabhomu nezibhamu zemishini? Akufanele yini ukunqotshwa kwezempi kwesizwe esinamademoni kukhulise umuzwa wokuzizwa uphansi futhi kubhebhethekise lesi sifo?

Namuhla amaJalimane anjengendoda edakiwe evuka ekuseni igajwe yiqhwa. Abakwazi abakwenzile futhi abafuni ukwazi. Munye kuphela umuzwa wokungajabuli okungenamkhawulo. Bayokwenza umzamo omkhulu wokuzithethelela naphezu kokumangalelwa nenzondo yezwe elibazungezile, kodwa lokhu ngeke kube indlela efanele. Ukuhlengwa, njengoba sengike ngabalula, kulele kuphela ekuvumeni okupheleleyo kwecala lomuntu. “Ngempela, maxima culpa!” (Iphutha lami, iphutha lami elikhulu (lat.)

Wonke umuntu olahlekelwa nguMthunzi wakhe, zonke izizwe ezikholelwa ekungaphumeleli kwakhe, ziyoba yimpango

Ekuphendukeni okuqotho umuntu uthola isihe saphezulu. Lokhu akulona nje iqiniso lezenkolo kodwa futhi kuyiqiniso elingokwengqondo. Inkambo yokwelashwa yaseMelika, ehlanganisa ukuyisa izakhamuzi ezikampini zokuhlushwa ukuze zibonise zonke izinto ezesabekayo ezenziwa lapho, iyindlela efanele impela.

Kodwa-ke, akunakwenzeka ukufeza umgomo kuphela ngokufundisa kokuziphatha, ukuphenduka kufanele kuzalwe ngaphakathi kwamaJalimane ngokwawo. Kungenzeka ukuthi inhlekelele izodalula amandla amahle, ukuthi kulokhu kuzibamba abaprofethi bazozalwa kabusha, njengesici salaba bantu abangajwayelekile njengamademoni. Owele phansi kangaka unokujula.

ISonto LamaKatolika cishe lizovuna imiphefumulo eminingi njengoba iSonto LamaProthestani lihlukaniswa namuhla. Kunezindaba zokuthi lelishwa elijwayelekile livuse impilo yenkolo eJalimane: yonke imiphakathi iyaguqa kusihlwa, inxusa iNkosi ukuba ibasindise kuMphikukristu.

Khona-ke ingabe singathemba ukuthi amademoni ayoxoshwa futhi izwe elisha, elingcono liyovela emanxiweni?

Cha, awukwazi ukuqeda amademoni okwamanje. Lona umsebenzi onzima, isixazululo esisesikhathini esizayo esikude. Manje njengoba ingelosi yomlando isiwashiyile amaJalimane, amademoni azobe efuna isisulu esisha. Futhi ngeke kube nzima. Wonke umuntu olahlekelwa nguMthunzi wakhe, sonke isizwe esikholelwa ekungaphumeleli kwaso, siyoba yimpango.

Siyasithanda isigebengu futhi sibonisa isithakazelo esivuthayo kuye, ngoba usathane usenza sikhohlwe ngogongolo olusesweni lakhe lapho sibona ucezwana olusesweni lomzalwane, futhi lena yindlela yokusikhohlisa. AmaJalimane azozithola lapho evuma futhi evuma icala lawo, kodwa amanye ayoba isisulu sokuthatheka uma, ngokunengeka kwawo icala lamaJalimane, ekhohlwa ukungapheleli kwawo.

Insindiso ilele kuphela emsebenzini onokuthula wokufundisa umuntu. Akukhona ukungabi nathemba njengoba kungase kubonakale

Akufanele sikhohlwe ukuthi ukuthambekela okubulalayo kwamaJalimane ekuqoqeni akukona okufana nemvelo kwezinye izizwe ezinqobayo, ukuze nabo bawele ngokungalindelekile izisulu zamandla amademoni.

"Ukusikisela okujwayelekile" kudlala indima enkulu eMelika yanamuhla, futhi ukuthi abantu baseRussia sebevele bethakasele kangakanani idemoni lamandla, kulula ukubona ezenzakalweni zakamuva okufanele zilinganise ukuthokoza kwethu okunokuthula ngandlela thize.

AbaseBrithani yibona abanengqondo kakhulu kulokhu: ukukhetha komuntu ngamunye kuyabakhulula ekuthandeni iziqubulo, futhi amaSwitzerland ahlanganyela ngokumangala kwawo ngalobu buhlanya obuhlangene.

Khona-ke kufanele silindele ngokulangazela ukuze sibone indlela amademoni azozibonakalisa ngayo esikhathini esizayo?

Sengike ngasho ukuthi insindiso ilele kuphela emsebenzini onokuthula wokufundisa umuntu. Akukhona ukungabi nathemba njengoba kungase kubonakale. Amandla amademoni makhulu, futhi izindlela zesimanje kakhulu zokusikisela kwabantu abaningi - abezindaba, umsakazo, icinema - zisenkonzweni yabo.

Noma kunjalo, inkolo yobuKristu yakwazi ukuvikela isikhundla sayo phambi kwesitha esingenakunqotshwa, futhi hhayi ngenkulumo-ze nokuguqulwa kwabantu abaningi - lokhu kwenzeka kamuva futhi kwabonakala kungabalulekile kangako - kodwa ngokuncenga umuntu nomuntu. Futhi lena indlela okumele siyithathe uma sifuna ukubophela amadimoni.

Kunzima ukuba nomona ngomsebenzi wakho ukubhala ngalezi zidalwa. Ngethemba ukuthi uzokwazi ukuveza imibono yami ngendlela yokuthi abantu bangayitholi iyinqaba kakhulu. Ngebhadi-ke yikho ukuthi abantu, ikakhulukazi labo abangenwe yimimoya, bacabange ukuthi ngiyahlanya ngoba ngikholelwa kumadimoni. Kodwa kuwumsebenzi wabo ukucabanga kanjalo.

Ngiyazi ukuthi amadimoni akhona. Ngeke zinciphe, lokhu kuyiqiniso njengeqiniso lokuthi iBuchenwald ikhona.


Ukuhunyushwa kwengxoxo ka-Carl Gustav Jung ethi “Werden die Seelen Frieden finden?”

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